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Re: Why were all DJB's ports removed? No more qmail?

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Subject: Re: Why were all DJB's ports removed? No more qmail?
From: Han <han@mijncomputer.nl>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:49:23 +0200
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References: <010d01c12cc6$788da4e0$1601a8c0@andrey> <200108241811.f7OIB0S04608@cvs.openbsd.org> <20010827235304.14357.qmail@cr.yp.to> <20010828094856.A24249@schutzenberger.liafa.jussieu.fr> <20010828165021.14430.qmail@cr.yp.to> <20010828114001.B20868@pianosa.catch22.org> <20010828231652.15530.qmail@cr.yp.to>
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D. J. Bernstein (djb@cr.yp.to) wrote:
>> Except, dan, the entire universe has standardized on /usr/local for 
>> addons and /usr for base components except you.

> Wrong. Ever heard of Linux? Locally compiled add-on packages go into
> /usr/local, but precompiled add-on packages go into /usr, except, of
> course, when they go into /opt.

> All of these non-constant splits cause serious problems for users. See
> http://cr.yp.to/slashpackage/studies.html for several examples.

The nasty thing about standard is that there are so many. So why would
a new standard solve all previous problems? And what new standards
became succesfull? And why?

Even in linux it is no problem whatsoever to install programs in
/usr/local and as long as there is no standard that _everybody_ sticks
to why not stick to a standard that everybody sticks to?

I mean the /package ideas are very good but they have one problem: You
would have to change every unix system on the planet.

>> Let's face it, you really don't want people who can't figure out how
>> to compile qmail to use it anyway, do you?

> Precompiled packages reduce installation latency.

Could you make a default install for qmail work, just like sendmail
works straight out off the box?


Cya, Han.

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