Jason Crawford wrote:
The problem is that the AAC driver doesn't work. My 3.6-stable dell
poweredge server with that raid controller crashes at least once a
week because of the raid controller driver. There is nothing wrong
with fighting for something that you want, and neither you nor Doug
have been that helpful. All Doug did was give Theo the run-around by
saying, don't worry, we'll be coming out with all new stuff! Which he
neglected to mention that they wouldn't be opening documentation for
either, at least enough to write a stable driver and management
utility. Adaptec would not be losing any money for just releasing
enough docs to let someone else write their own driver and management
utility TO USE ADAPTEC'S HARDWARE. They'd be generating more business.
This attitude so far has been quite productive, the OpenBSD community
has gotten many wireless firmware's and drivers completely open, not
to mention Theo getting the FSF award. I'd say that is pretty damn
productive.
Jason
If the OpenBSD driver is buggy, then ask for help. I don't normally
monitor the OpenBSD mailing lists and I don't run it at home, so I have
no idea what the state of it is. I do, however, answer email from
developers from other projects who contact me. The hardware is tricky
to get right and there are bugs in different cards and different
firmware versions that often need to be worked around. It's all
documented in my driver, and I'm happy to share my knowledge.
Scott
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:08:06 -0700, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
Adam wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:09 -0700, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
I would have been happy to
help. Heck, I might have even ported the management app (AACCLI, not
a GUI, btw) for you like I did for FreeBSD. Barring that, I would have
been happy to show you how to do the linux compat shims for the driver
so that you could use the Linux AACCLI on OpenBSD. But no, you never
contacted me.
Does everyone who's worked at adaptec have such big problems with reading
comprehension? Nobody wants a maybe working, cludgy, binary only tool.
How would giving the developers something they don't want be considered
"helping"?
Adam
I can't see how the All Or Nothing attitude here is productive. Good,
you guys want to produce fully open and unencumbered stuff. That's
wonderful. But why is it so important to go around screaming and
yelling about it and alientating those who do try to help? Let me
tell you, Doug is about the most positive and supportive guy you'll
ever have at Adaptec, pissing him off really won't produce results.
Why is it so important to drag your users into your political fights
by depriving them of stuff that works now but isn't exactly everything
that you want? I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID
companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use
the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be
pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject.
Scott
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